Don & Daniel drop some interesting new nuggets in the Summer Wells & Lilly & Jack Sullivan cases 
which is kind of risky because if you’re
only interested in one of the cases, you
might not watch at all because you don’t
want to watch some information about a
different case. So, what I’ll do, if
you’re here for just Lily and Jack
Sullivan, I’ll put a time on the screen
right now and you can skip directly to
that in the video if you would like to
so you’re not wasting your time. If
you’re here for Summer Wells, then keep
watching cuz summer’s coming up first.
The two cases have been baffling.
Summer’s case has gone on for almost
four years now. And Summer’s dad, Don
Wells, has done a flurry of new
interviews. I’m going to share what
Donna said on News Channel 5, WCYB.
WCYB have put out two videos so far. I
don’t know if there’s any more. You
know, news channels, they split up
interviews into different videos, and
it’s difficult to keep track of what’s
what. But we’re going to go through what
Donna has said and then I’m going to
share a post from Don that has been put
on Facebook on the Facebook group Find
Summer Wells that’s about Summer’s
brothers. Okay, let’s go.
It has been four years now. What do you
think when that comes to mind? Awkwardly
worded question, but this is Don’s
response. It’s been really tough. um
these, you know, these uh the social
media groups would attack anybody that
we knew, any employer that we worked
for. And so it made it really hard for
us to obtain employment and all these
things. And uh but there’s been people
that’s helped us, you know, along the
way. And we really appreciate that, you
know, for sure.
We’re just hoping, you know, God will
turn it all around. Look, in the first
year that summer was missing, yeah,
people were crazy. going real life. I
can’t endorse that in any way, shape, or
form. Don losing a job because of it. I
can’t endorse that. But next question.
Do you still hold on to hope that Summer
will be fine one day? We hope and pray
all the time for that, you know, or
Yeah, we hope so. Um, she could be
anywhere. We don’t know. Only, you know,
we just got to hang on to that hope and
just do our best to, you know, do what’s
right. Do what’s right. Well, if he’s
got something to do with Summer’s
disappearance, even indirectly,
the right thing to do would be to tell
the cops everything, you know. I’m going
to say that before lots of people in my
comment section do. Next question. Do
you still stay in the area in hopes that
she will come back? Many times I’ve
wanted to go back out west and
everything else, but this whole thing
has tied us down to right here. We can’t
we can’t do anything, you know. Not
really.

I mean, yeah, this whole thing’s tied us
down to this area for four years now.
Look, I know Don talked about moving to
Utah before summer disappeared. You
know, they were packing up. They were
going to sell 110 and go back to Utah.
But that didn’t happen. Don even got a
job out there. Allegedly, that was the
time when Jose was staying at 110. And
then Don came back and ended up getting
arrested. Yeah, that was that time. few
months before somebody disappeared.
So Don says that they’re stuck at 110.
However,
listen, they went to Arkansas for ages.
Do you remember when they stayed in that
motel and they came back because I think
John breached his parole or some such?
So no, they’ve not been tied to the area
for the whole time. Next question. Have
you heard anything new from the police
recently? No. Um, I don’t think we
That’s really kind of a tough question.
For one thing, law enforcement. Well,
it’s not really, is it? It’s a yes or a
no. Have you heard anything from the
police recently?
Yes, if you have, no if you haven’t. And
a lot I mean, to me, it seems like law
enforcement and me and her as parents or
whatever do not get along. They see
things quite differently. um kind of
insulting and insinuating and Oh, so
they’ve tried to blame you. They think
you’re involved. They tried to crack
you.
To me, it seems like they kind of, you
know, look down on you a lot. I mean,
this it hasn’t been very good. I mean,
they tore our house apart 11 times. Why?
I mean, why? That just don’t even make
sense. They searched and tore our house
apart 11 times. I’ve never even heard of
that before. I mean, to me, that’s Well,
if they think you’re involved in a crime
and they think you’re hiding something,
then yeah, they’re going to keep coming
back.
They’re going to keep coming back. And
look, they’ve got an 11 acre property,
so they can’t do it all in one fell
swoop, can they? I don’t know.
They really hurt. The whole thing has
really hurt me and kind of a lot, but
we’re still hanging in there for our
kids and trying to do what’s right and
then holding up hope that Summer will be
found. Okay. Does it give you hope that
the investigation is not cold? Well, I
mean, they can only do so much. I mean,
I think there was a lot more going on
during the Biden administration.
What What’s the Biden administration got
to do with it?
A lot more was going on during the Biden
administration,
right? Has Trump becoming president stop
the investigation? What’s he trying to
say here? I thought he was Trump
supporter. I I don’t I have no idea what
he’s trying to say here really. And
please don’t get into politics in the
comment section
because I can’t comment on American
politics. But look, Don, I I have no
idea where he was going with that
thought. They’re just starting to
scratch the surface up and uh hopefully
they’ll continue with a lot of this
investigative work. And we’ve heard
stories, you know, that of things going
on in the higherups and stuff, but you
know, a lot what
we’ve heard things going on with the
higherups.
Now I am intrigued.
Sees and other things, but I don’t know.
Do you still believe she was taken by
somebody? So abducted. Well, we know she
was. You know what I mean? How do you
know she was, Dom? How do you know she
was? She was there one minute and the
next day she wasn’t, you know. Well, she
could have just wandered off, but how do
you know she was abducted? And then we
bring back the dog trail. Down the dog
trail, I think. So, because of that
search dog, you know, and I’ve said it
before, you know, that search dog when
it first uh smelled her clothing or
whatever it was, she that dog went
straight down that dog trail and then
lost its scent by the roadside. And like
I don’t know, one policeman said that I
don’t know. There’s a couple different
things. I don’t know. It’s hard to say.
Interesting.
Couple of different things.
What does that mean? It’s a couple of
different things. Well, the dog could
have lost the scent on the road because
summer was taken away in a car or lost
the scent on the road because the
surface changed from natural to
artificial. I’ve got loads of videos on
that and search dogs. Okay. There was
another video as well put out by WCYB.
This contained a lot of the same
information like clips, but right at the
end there’s a clip that isn’t in that
previous one. So, we’ll just play that
as well. Wells clinging to his faith and
has a message for his children. just
that we love them very much and we’d
like to see them come home and uh we
want to we really want to see them, you
know, involved in our church and worship
our God in in our church, participate in
church. All right. Well, okay. This is
from Facebook and this is apparently by
Don Wells shared on Find Some Wells
Facebook group. Let’s be clear. We were
told to sign the boys to the state. We
did not do it willfully. We did not cut
a deal. Okay. Lots of people in my
comments after yesterday’s video said
that they would have dropped the case.
You know, the the child abuse and
neglect allegations. They dropped them.
They dismissed the case. They would have
done that if they signed their rights to
their children over to the state of
Tennessee. They would have dropped the
case anyway. I don’t know about that. I
guess sometimes they do, but if it’s
serious claims of criminal child abuse,
I don’t imagine they would drop the
case. They’d take the kids away and
terminate the rights, but they’d still
press criminal charges. I don’t know.
I’m not in Tennessee. I’m not saying
you’re wrong if you said that in the
comments. However, we have been council
to allow the state of Tennessee to do
what the law states. We cannot speak
about blank and blank right now, the two
younger boys. But Blank, the eldest boy,
should be sent home, and we expect him
any day now. This is all about summer.
Our boys have suffered beyond words.
They lost everything their church,
pastor, friends, home, teachers, family,
and so much more. The world may have
witnessed our emotional collapse after
summer disappeared, but vindication of
no abuse and neglect is now legally
declared. So, no, we did not toss out
our boys. What we signed was based on a
case that has been proven as invalid.
So, the eldest boy is up for adoption.
There’s advertising about him and people
saying that TN kids is horrible for
putting his information online.
And it it does sound like he’s a puppy
up for rehoming.
I don’t feel good about it. But they do
kind this kind of thing in my country as
well, like they have billboards with
children’s faces on like, “Do you want
to adopt me? Can you give me a home?”
That kind of thing. I mean, look, it
swings and roundabouts, isn’t it?
Because if they don’t advertise, how
does anybody know that there’s all these
kids who need adopting? I don’t know
what to say about it really because it
is sharable and maybe if you’re in
Tennessee, you are in a position to give
him or someone else a home. I’ll leave
the link to his ad in the description
box so you can choose to watch it if you
want. Okay. Well, see what Don says
next. All right. We’re now going to move
over to Lily and Jack. Now, Lilian
Jack’s case over there in Nova Scotia
has been likened to the Canadian version
of the Summerwells case. I’ve called it
the Canadian version of Summerwells. I
have, but in Lily and Jack’s case, this
is a month-long investigation.
Well, a month and a bit now. They were
reported missing on Friday, May the 2nd,
around 10:00 a.m. by their mother, Malia
Brooks Murray. The day after Malia left
with their 16-month-old daughter, Lily
and Jack are Daniel Martell’s stepkids.
But the 16-month-old is Malayaia and
Daniels. And she took that little girl,
went to live with her mother,
apparently, and Daniel is left on his
own. Daniel has been speaking out. He
doesn’t do it on a daily basis now, but
he does speak to the media. And there
has been a new interview with him. So
step father of missing children shares
details of polygraph test. Let’s listen
to this here to pic county now where the
stepfather of Lily and Jack Sullivan,
the missing siblings, is speaking out
about the RCMP’s release yesterday about
the case and questions he answered for
investigators. CTB’s Huffsa spoke with
him today and she joins us from
Westville, Nova Scotia.
Todd Lily Sullivan and her younger
brother Jack were last seen in May. And
since then, investigators say they’ve
chased down every lead. RCMP confirmed
they’ve spoken with 54 people, conducted
polygraph tests, and have received close
to 500 tips, but yet there’s still no
sign of the siblings. Jack and Lily’s
stepfather says he was the first to
volunteer for a polygraph, hopeful it
would help the search and ease public
speculation. I know it would be a a big
help in the case and kind of narrow down
maybe some of the speculations and and
just provide more evidence. Daniel
Martell says during the polygraph test
he was asked several things including
whether or not he was involved in the
disappearance of the children. He says
both his cell phone and that of his
aranged wife were confiscated and
searched by investigators. this and
weeks of interviews, there still hasn’t
been a major break in the case. And for
their stepfather, the silence inside the
once busy home is deafening. Going from
a family of seven to
just just me, I mean, I have nothing but
time to just think. RCMP insists this is
still very much an active investigation.
They’re reviewing surveillance footage
and following digital evidence. But the
emotional toll has already left its mark
on Martell, including the loss of
custody of his daughter, Meadow. I
haven’t even got to see my own kids, not
even Meadow yet,
but I’m I’m still hopeful. I have
supervised visits coming up that are
granted by CPS. The children’s
stepfather says he’s grateful to the
investigators and to people who continue
to share tips, even if none have yet led
to finding Jack and Lily. Until then,
over a month later, the family continues
to remain hopeful that the children will
return home safe. Do you know what? I’ll
tell you what is deafening. Malia’s
silence. That is deafening. Make of it
what you will, but it’s defining.
Apparently, she’s lawyered up. Why?

Don’t know. Let’s see if there’s
anything else in this article that
accompanies the news piece. Six-year-old
Lila Sullivan, four-year-old Jack Silvin
will last seen in the morning of May 2nd
at the home Gerlock Road in Lansstone
station over Scotia. Since then,
investigators say they’ve chased down
every lead. So, this is all from the
RCMP update this week. They interviewed
54 people now, not 30. Conducted
polygraph test will receive 500 tips.
Okay. Children’s stepfather Danny
Martell says he was first to volunteer
for a polygraph. Knew it would be a big
help. So he said that in the news piece.
RCMP Corporal Guilm Tromblé told
reporters Wednesday afternoon. The truth
verification unit is engaged.
There are multiple facets to those
investigations and those experts are
examining every question and answer that
those individuals are providing and it
could guide the investigation.
Interesting. I wonder who else has been
polygraphed. Daniel asked for one. Was
Malia given the polygraph? Was Daniel’s
mother, Daniel’s brother? Who else? I’d
like to know. Police have not said how
many tests were administered, who took
the tests, and what the results were.
Daniel implied that he passed in a
previous interview. Don’t know whether
he did, not been confirmed by RCMP, but
Chris Lewis, CTV’s policing expert and a
former polygraph examiner for the
Ontario Provincial Police, says it’s
significant the RCMP has administered
polygraph tests. You don’t do polygraph
tests and waste that resource on people
that maybe just saw or heard something
or is a real remote suspect. That’s not
the way it works. Lewis told CTV News
Wednesday. If they are doing polygraph
tests and examinations on people, those
are the people they suspect might be
involved in some way or for whatever
reason aren’t being honest. Well, Daniel
asked for one. So, if you ask, do they
give you one? I don’t know. You know, in
the Sebastian Rogers case, back to
Tennessee there for a moment, Seth
Rogers and Chris Proudoot, Sebastian’s
bio and stepdad, respectively, weren’t
polygraphed because it was shown by
other means that they weren’t there
during the period of time that Sebastian
could have gone missing. So, they didn’t
polygraph them. But then people kept
asking and it became a thing. So they
ended up both taking polygraphs. Chris
with the uh TBI and Seth with Nancy
Grace’s polygrapher. Anyhow, back to
Daniel Martell in Nova Scotia. This
point there has been no major break in
the case. Martell says the silence
inside his once busy home is deafening.
Going from a family of seven to just me
have nothing but time to think. The
emotional toll has left its mark on
Martell who has lost custody of his
daughter Meadow. Does it mean he’s lost
custody permanently or that during this
time he can’t see her? And in the
interview sounded to me like he can’t
see his other two children either. He’s
got two children, a son and a daughter
with a previous marriage. So is he not
allowed to see them either?
If so, why? Is very intriguing. I even
supervised. I haven’t even got to see my
own kids. Not even Meadow yet. But I’m
still hopeful. I have supervised visits
coming up with the CPS. So, supervised
visits. Something went down. Something
has gone down that has prompted the CPS
to deny Daniel access to his own
children. Children in the plural.
There’s something not right here. Could
Daniel be completely innocent and Malia
has turned against him and told up a lot
of lies? Yeah, possibly.
But then again, she’s not talking, is
she? The children’s stepfather says he’s
grateful for the investigation of the
people who continue to share tips. He
has the family remains hopeful the
children will return home safe. Look,
after all this time, I don’t know. It’s
kind of mindboggling that there’s not
been any evidence at all. I appreciate
every tip, but it kind of leaves a lot
of room to the imagination of what
really went on. Interesting.
I just want everybody to focus outward.
Focus on the kids. The kids are the main
priority and that will never change.
Please say more than 11 Nova Scotia RCMP
units are working on the case along with
the National Center Missing Persons,
Canadian Center for Child Protection,
and Provincial and Municipal Police
Agencies across Nova Scotia and Canada.
Please say the information gathered
during the investigation, including all
ground searches and rescue efforts, has
not identified any new search areas at
this time. The RCMP first launched an
extensive air and ground search for the
siblings which covered 5.5 km of heavy
wooded and rural terrain. So it’s gone
up now to 8 square kilometers. I think
5.5 km equates to a radius of just over
a mile if you put the house in the
center. 8 square kilometers.

I haven’t
worked that out yet, but it’s going to
be closer to mile and a half maybe. I
haven’t worked that out yet. The search,
which involves hundreds of people, dogs,
drones, divers, and helicopters, was
scaled back 5 days later. Additional
searches took place on May 8th, 9th,
17th, 18th, 31st, and June the 1st. In
the latest search, 78 train searchers
from across the province focused on
specific areas around Gerlock Road and a
nearby pipeline where a bootprint was
previously found. Anyone with
information about the missing children
is asked to call the Northeast Nova RCMP
major crime unit at 9028965060.
You can remain anonymous if you want to
by contacting Nova Scotia Crimestoppers
tollfree at 1800222 tips which is 8477.
All right guys, let me know your
thoughts in the comments about these two
cases. If you’re following one or the
other, that’s fine. Just comment on the
case you’re following. If you’re
following both cases, what about the
similarities between these two cases?
There’s a lot of similarities here. Let